Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:11 What is
Speaker 2 00:00:13 Zach? What?
Speaker 1 00:00:14 Hello?
Speaker 3 00:00:15 Hello. We go back
Speaker 1 00:00:16 Tuesday to our regular scheduled times of grew everybody.
Speaker 2 00:00:25 And today we're playing golf with friends and watching Titans season three, episode one. I bet you thought we'd never go back to Titans and believe me, I felt the same. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:00:35 I can't believe I'm gonna start with this. I can't believe I'm the one who watched the series. <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:00:42 You watched it autonomously.
Speaker 1 00:00:44 Yes. That's not
Speaker 3 00:00:46 That
Speaker 2 00:00:48 Not
Speaker 1 00:00:48 That's the, could this at like double or three speed because I've already watched it, but I watched it
Speaker 3 00:00:57 If I were you, I just wouldn't have watched it again.
Speaker 4 00:00:59 Yeah, let's do the, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:01:01 Yeah. It all blended together. But there were also some sections that I wanted to revisit.
Speaker 2 00:01:11 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:01:12 An episode one, apparently <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:01:13 In this incredible tapestry Titans season three. Well, I had watched the first episode, so I, and I did go back and watch it again. And yeah, there was some good stuff. Yeah. I actually, I, I, I enjoyed this first episode. It it's, I'm interested. I as always for, for Titans, I'm interested to see where it goes. Um, this goes somewhere. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 00:01:41 It gets better.
Speaker 4 00:01:43 I had never seen,
Speaker 2 00:01:46 Uh,
Speaker 4 00:01:47 And well, yeah, I just did like recaps on YouTube for the season. First two seasons, which you watch it, me up. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I'm a, you know, I'm a good podcaster. Oh, thanks festival. But, uh, yeah. I mean, I actually liked it more than I thought I would, you know, they've been telling us the Marvel shows are, uh, the best, but you know, here we are, we're
Speaker 2 00:02:06 On a
Speaker 4 00:02:06 DC. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:02:07 To be fair. Definitely. I think that
Speaker 2 00:02:09 This, the thing, this, this episode didn't have, which the other episodes had was, would be like really terrible dialogue. Uh, no, like, fuck Batman, for example. That's the most famous example.
Speaker 4 00:02:19 Book joker. Yeah. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:02:20 My joker. Wasn't so bad. Um, but yeah, so this one actually had pretty decent dialogue.
Speaker 1 00:02:27 Yeah. It wasn't. Yeah. It wasn't wasn't standard edgy time. It actually had some heart to it. So, which was interesting. I'm not used to that in a teen Titan show.
Speaker 2 00:02:40 <laugh> definitely also no Raven coincidence. No, maybe, but she was referenced
Speaker 3 00:02:46 Who?
Speaker 1 00:02:47 Raven.
Speaker 3 00:02:48 Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 00:02:50 Reva.
Speaker 3 00:02:50 Wait, it keeps glitching me out again. This isn't fair.
Speaker 2 00:02:53 Well, I think you're not allowed to end spend too long on these, on these parts that you bounce on.
Speaker 3 00:02:59 Well, I'm trying.
Speaker 2 00:03:01 Yeah. Me too harder. Oh, this
Speaker 3 00:03:03 Is hot. Tough. This sucks.
Speaker 1 00:03:06 I'm stuck in. I made
Speaker 2 00:03:07 It.
Speaker 1 00:03:08 What the, where the did I
Speaker 2 00:03:10 Get? Oh no. Then I got bounced back. What the shit?
Speaker 3 00:03:12 This is, this is some shit ass. Oh
Speaker 2 00:03:14 Yeah. This, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:03:16 This map. <laugh> this map. Socks. I've never played this one before.
Speaker 2 00:03:23 Forgot to say who this episode is. Starring
Speaker 1 00:03:26 Everybody. It's starring me. The biggest Titans fan ever.
Speaker 2 00:03:31 The dangs all here. That's all I want.
Speaker 3 00:03:32 Yeah. Everyone's here. It's everyone. Everyone.
Speaker 2 00:03:34 It makes you feel good, everyone. Oh, my
Speaker 1 00:03:38 I'm never finishing
Speaker 2 00:03:39 This whole professional.
Speaker 3 00:03:41 I blame Jay.
Speaker 1 00:03:42 You said pick one that we never played and pick it. True.
Speaker 2 00:03:49 So we, our,
Speaker 3 00:03:50 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:03:52 Um, so, so Jason's tracking down the joker. Bruce Wayne tells him not to do it. He does it anyway. And he's he has like some inhaler.
Speaker 3 00:04:02 Yeah. I think it's ban venom.
Speaker 2 00:04:05 I thought it was scarecrow. Anti fear, gas or anti joker gas, like anti joke. Do you know me? I'm not. He says I'm not afraid of anything now.
Speaker 3 00:04:15 Yeah, because he is got the BA juice.
Speaker 2 00:04:17 No, cuz he, cuz he fell off the building and then he like made peace with it. So he
Speaker 1 00:04:22 Might just be heroin.
Speaker 3 00:04:24 <laugh> do you would hail heroines, DJ.
Speaker 2 00:04:26 Wow. Think of how much money Jason think would make if be marketed that I feel like
Speaker 1 00:04:30 You could
Speaker 3 00:04:31 That's but it would be kind of a waste I think.
Speaker 2 00:04:34 Yeah, that sounds like something from the boys heroin and it's like a pun cuz female heroes are called heroines. Get it
Speaker 3 00:04:40 Pure heroin, like Lord's album
Speaker 2 00:04:43 Anyway. <laugh> and I always thought that the deal, I always thought that tracking down the joker was the hard part mm-hmm you know, like in a fight, like whenever Batman likes the joker, there's really no question that he's gonna just beat the crap out of him. Like the hard part about the joker is the finding out. So Jason already did the hard part.
Speaker 1 00:05:04 So, but it also depends on what joker intentions are. Cuz at the end, cuz during the episode they say joker just stood there. When we got there, right. It was his intention. Like it was his intention to break Batman spirit. Again, he probably made it super easy for him to be tracked. Cuz that's what he wanted.
Speaker 2 00:05:23 And as usual it depends on the version of the joker. Right? Well like yeah. In the dark night, the Heath ledger joker, he surprises. Batman is able to get one up on him. So usually that's how the joker wins his fights. But there's really no question that the Heath ledger joker versus Batman in an empty room will lose you think risk Gotham's soul on a fist fight with you. That's why give budget
Speaker 1 00:05:49 To join us.
Speaker 3 00:05:51 I can't
Speaker 1 00:05:52 Just join on me again. It's
Speaker 3 00:05:54 Not working.
Speaker 2 00:05:55 I'll invite you.
Speaker 3 00:05:57 Oh wait. Now it's working.
Speaker 2 00:05:58 <laugh> all right.
Speaker 3 00:05:59 Mm-hmm <affirmative> I just had to complain about it.
Speaker 2 00:06:01 So, so what I'm thinking about Jason's death? I thought it was a little underwhelming.
Speaker 3 00:06:04 It was stupid. Stupid. Okay. First of all,
Speaker 2 00:06:06 He's fine with it.
Speaker 3 00:06:07 He didn't even fight. Like they didn't even like bother to have him fight back. He gets like sucker punched. He's like, oh man, he just dies. And like you think that the suit could take a couple of those blows. I mean it's made of Kevlar or whatever. Right. It's just a crowbar. It's not like a bazooka. You know?
Speaker 1 00:06:25 I appreciate the fact that he got in the face though.
Speaker 2 00:06:27 It's not questioned the suit. Yeah. He hits them in the hat.
Speaker 3 00:06:30 He does. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:06:33 The
Speaker 2 00:06:33 Then he up and he is like, oh and then he just starts beating on
Speaker 3 00:06:37 Okay. Whatever. But also like is anyone else getting tired of like, oh, cause it was in the comic. That makes it a good idea. I'm like, I'm tired of saying Jason getting beaten it dead of the crowbar. I've seen it. I've seen it.
Speaker 2 00:06:48 Forehand or backhand. I've seen, I've seen it well that, well, anytime you introduce the character of Jason, Todd, it's only a matter of time before he gets beat to death by a, with a Crow bar.
Speaker 3 00:06:57 What it's. And that's like the, I don't that you
Speaker 2 00:07:00 Said, I think he was one of the best characters on the show, but yet, but maybe they're just gonna bring him back quickly. Well can way
Speaker 1 00:07:06 He was definitely one of the better written characters. Like he actually had a full, fully fleshed out like charact,
Speaker 2 00:07:14 Which was personality. Is that he's a douche
Speaker 1 00:07:17 <laugh> well, yeah, but it it's fully fleshed out. Like he, why? Like he has issues and
Speaker 3 00:07:23 Skin in this hole.
Speaker 1 00:07:25 You just have to, I do like the effect. Yeah. You just gotta get the right angle. There you go. Oh
Speaker 2 00:07:32 <laugh> what did you
Speaker 1 00:07:32 Do? So,
Speaker 2 00:07:34 So I, I actually disagree with you. I don't know. I don't think the writing was actually that good for him. I like it. Wasn't better than any of the other ones. I just thought the, the kid playing him did a good job, like conveying a, a kid with a chip on his shoulder who doesn't care about whether he's liked or not. And doesn't like anybody else
Speaker 1 00:07:52 I can see that. I agree with that. I can,
Speaker 2 00:07:53 They brought the actor in for this one episode. Excuse me. I would like to see, I have a feeling we'll be back. Have you seen the name of the next episode?
Speaker 3 00:08:03 Is it called the red hood?
Speaker 2 00:08:04 I cannot say.
Speaker 3 00:08:07 Is it called Lazarus?
Speaker 2 00:08:09 <laugh> okay. So
Speaker 1 00:08:10 I
Speaker 2 00:08:11 Think I may have mentioned this before. Sorry really quick. But Jaen in the first couple of seasons was the only guard you're gonna have a passion for what he was doing.
Speaker 3 00:08:18 Yeah. He was like, this is great. I love being a super hero.
Speaker 2 00:08:21 Like he felt an emotion. He wasn't just like, what's his name? What I like when rose was like, you're the only one here who doesn't just sit around crying about your feelings.
Speaker 3 00:08:29 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:08:30 Yeah. That's right. So
Speaker 1 00:08:35 That's true. Uh, yeah, I think that was the biggest thing, but I also, I do like the, the irony of Jason Todd being like, I feel don't feel fear. And then soon as he gets there, he's like, ah, the whole entire time
Speaker 2 00:08:50 <laugh> that's true. He's like, oh my God. A scary clown. I'm using park. Yeah. Even the looked like it. Scared him. Yeah. It scared me. It was
Speaker 1 00:08:58 Pretty great. <laugh> I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2 00:09:00 Yeah. But
Speaker 1 00:09:02 I'm back at the <laugh>. Oh my God. This is gonna add bad.
Speaker 2 00:09:08 Okay.
Speaker 1 00:09:08 So me into now
Speaker 2 00:09:10 We have the appearance of night wing.
Speaker 3 00:09:11 Wait, wait. Well also I like Bruce Wayne on a private plane. Like he's actually doing business.
Speaker 2 00:09:17 <laugh> the business have given
Speaker 3 00:09:18 You. He's not just always Batman all the time.
Speaker 2 00:09:20 It's like, I assumed he was
Speaker 3 00:09:22 Move. I was this man doing business. Have
Speaker 2 00:09:24 We literally ever seen uh seora in the Batman costume? Cause I feel like we haven't. No, no we haven't.
Speaker 3 00:09:31 I don't think so. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:09:32 Yeah. So
Speaker 3 00:09:33 Ever sure was like not into this episode. I feel like some of the actors in this were like, dang, the show's still going
Speaker 2 00:09:42 Anymore.
Speaker 1 00:09:43 Thought was and
Speaker 5 00:09:46 The actors understand the
Speaker 2 00:09:50 Audience's Trek feel the same way. It's like the star Trek card actors.
Speaker 3 00:09:52 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:09:53 Yeah. Well they all got fired. It's a, that's a different situation.
Speaker 3 00:09:57 They got fired.
Speaker 2 00:09:58 Well, they got like, we don't want you on the show anymore. What else? What else would you call it?
Speaker 3 00:10:02 Uh, I would call it. They never should have been on the show in the first place.
Speaker 2 00:10:08 They should have been lumber jacks. Finished it a bit. Lumberjacks
Speaker 1 00:10:10 Get wreck
Speaker 2 00:10:11 Nerds. Oh shit. Uh, okay. So yeah. Then we have the Titans taking on gizmo, which I remember from the cartoon. Yes. I, and I like the live action version of gizmo. To be honest with the French. This show was good. Bite music. Uh, I didn't notice that I did. I
Speaker 1 00:10:28 Just quirky and
Speaker 2 00:10:30 Yeah, I do think that I night wing having the tasers on his SCR sticks. It's like what a good idea. Instead of taking, instead of beating the shit out of people, why don't you just taser them?
Speaker 3 00:10:41 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:10:41 Do you
Speaker 5 00:10:42 Guys, that's true. A lot of superhero, uh, weapons.
Speaker 2 00:10:46 Do you guys like how his suit is now insulated against uh, electricity, Jay
Speaker 3 00:10:51 <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:10:52 I did notice
Speaker 3 00:10:52 That, Hey,
Speaker 5 00:10:55 I mean, if he's using CAERS that makes a lot of sense. Cause
Speaker 3 00:10:57 No it's cuz Donna died of that.
Speaker 5 00:10:59 Oh that no that's
Speaker 2 00:11:02 Don it's because someone, I thought it was Jay had this rant. That was like your, you use electricity, but your suit is not protected against your own weapons.
Speaker 1 00:11:11 That was
Speaker 2 00:11:12 My stupid.
Speaker 1 00:11:13 That was my rant. I'm not gonna lie. <laugh> oh geez. And it was stupid. I was right. And the everyone agreed and finally figured it out.
Speaker 2 00:11:20 <laugh> and that's the thing with this show is they hear the, the fans and they tried to, they just wait, when did, when did Donna use electricity though?
Speaker 3 00:11:29 Donna died for being electrocuted. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:11:32 When did to use electricity as part of her suit?
Speaker 3 00:11:34 She never did.
Speaker 2 00:11:35 It was night wing. Who uses it as part of his suit,
Speaker 3 00:11:38 But he it's insulated against electricity. So doesn't die for being electrocuted like Donna.
Speaker 2 00:11:43 Okay. Okay. Okay. Whatever.
Speaker 3 00:11:45 Gosh,
Speaker 2 00:11:46 <laugh> golly, Moses. Uh, I also like star fires do suit.
Speaker 3 00:11:51 Oh yeah. She's wearing so much clothing. You can't even see like any of her skin so weird.
Speaker 1 00:11:56 I know.
Speaker 2 00:11:58 Oh
Speaker 1 00:11:59 That I didn't like it Uhhuh and that everyone else has these badass like armor and like extra pad. And she's basically just wearing cheap. <laugh> cheap. That's
Speaker 3 00:12:14 Day
Speaker 2 00:12:15 Uhhuh. What about Gar? He's still in his like tracksuit.
Speaker 1 00:12:18 Yeah. But his thing is leather. Yeah. Like his stuff looks good.
Speaker 3 00:12:22 I heard that is not like span. It looks like leather.
Speaker 1 00:12:25 It looks crap.
Speaker 2 00:12:27 Whatever it made.
Speaker 1 00:12:28 Fabric painted crap. He did crap.
Speaker 3 00:12:31 I mean, super boys is wearing a t-shirt.
Speaker 2 00:12:33 It looks like people max series. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:12:35 But he's wearing it. That's what it press t-shirt with. Nice jeans.
Speaker 3 00:12:39 Nice press shirt. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:12:42 And that is his normal costume.
Speaker 2 00:12:44 Yeah. That's his costume.
Speaker 3 00:12:46 What's tee-shirt
Speaker 1 00:12:46 Jeans is literally wearing this cheap eye. It's a cosplay I would make. And if it's something I could make, it's not good. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:12:56 Aw. Don't sell yourself short, short J I like air. Yeah. Those playing. Yeah. J I bounced into the sand. Wait, I
Speaker 3 00:13:02 Did find this whole sequence. So they beat up these bad guys or whatever, generic people. And then they, they wait around for the, the press. Yeah. And, um, the, you know, super boy and Bport talking to some cops and they're like, oh man, our kids just love you. You assign this. And I was like, Hey, didn't B boy like mall. A bunch of people in I'll park.
Speaker 2 00:13:24 I think a bunch of cops. Yeah, he did. He had super boy dad, but that's neither here nor there. Good call on. I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 00:13:31 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:13:32 That's hilarious.
Speaker 3 00:13:33 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:13:35 Yeah. I guess they forgot about that. No, I like that part. I do. Like, I do like that part cuz they were like my kids, my kid would love a graph from you. Super boy. And these boys, like what about me? And he is like, nah,
Speaker 3 00:13:47 Nah,
Speaker 2 00:13:48 He didn't even ask to be polite. He just straight up said no. Yeah, no it was, that was funny. I like how I like how that's gonna be like these boys conflict this season is he gets no respect. These boys. Like the next time I spend most people, this is why you guys like him touching people in the gizmo fight. Oh my God. It was amazing. It was stupid dude. No wait. That was but okay. Maybe it was stupid, but it was great choreography. It was great. Like action sequencing. I could see that it was long take, like I was surprised it was like six moves and then one shot
Speaker 1 00:14:24 <laugh> yeah.
Speaker 3 00:14:26 You know who is the real MVP is crypto
Speaker 2 00:14:29 <laugh> yeah. We know how much you love crypto.
Speaker 3 00:14:31 Crypto's the man,
Speaker 2 00:14:33 The dog,
Speaker 3 00:14:34 The dog.
Speaker 2 00:14:35 Is it the same dog?
Speaker 3 00:14:36 I dunno.
Speaker 2 00:14:37 It looks different than I remembered it, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 00:14:39 Probably looks smaller. Yeah. I didn't know.
Speaker 1 00:14:41 It's actually close game.
Speaker 3 00:14:43 Raven was like who? Where is Raven?
Speaker 2 00:14:46 She's off trying to resurrect Donna and hopefully we won't see her again. This season. Oh man. The poor Garth Gar is talking to himself. That was crazy. Yeah. What's like he's he's insane.
Speaker 3 00:14:57 He's he's gone crazy.
Speaker 1 00:14:59 He's not gone crazy. He just misses his friend. How dare,
Speaker 3 00:15:04 How dare.
Speaker 2 00:15:05 It's been a while since we had dare. So that was so I appreciate that. Uh, and then so star fire gets like a booty call. I'm not sure what that part, what that part was. She gets like a phone from somebody.
Speaker 3 00:15:17 Yeah. She gets a phone call from some guy she banged in Las Vegas. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:15:21 You guys don't remember this guy?
Speaker 3 00:15:22 Uh,
Speaker 2 00:15:24 The psychiatrist and
Speaker 1 00:15:28 That
Speaker 2 00:15:29 No way that guy doesn't have abs
Speaker 1 00:15:31 What, what? That
Speaker 2 00:15:33 Guy? This guy doesn't have. Abs he's not ripped
Speaker 1 00:15:35 That guy. Delicious. <laugh> just said
Speaker 2 00:15:41 I don't remember any abs. I just remember that part. No, that guy was super ripped. We go back and listen to the episode. We talked about it. At least I talked about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:15:48 He, he, he he's delicious.
Speaker 2 00:15:50 I was like psychiatrist by day hitting the gym by night nail model by night. Yeah. Don't you hate it when you hit it and end up right back where you started. It's like life
Speaker 3 00:16:04 That's poet.
Speaker 1 00:16:04 Is that what you're talking about? Starfire.
Speaker 2 00:16:07 I also liked when star fire was like, oh yeah. Night Ws around. He's hiding in the shadow. I was like Batman.
Speaker 3 00:16:13 Yeah. Classic. The night w suit does look pretty good. It's a little shiny.
Speaker 1 00:16:18 That's it really is shiny.
Speaker 2 00:16:20 <laugh> I mean it's a superhero suit.
Speaker 3 00:16:22 Yeah, but it's night wing.
Speaker 1 00:16:24 Yeah. They could night must be
Speaker 2 00:16:26 Flashy. That's the whole point Dick was, was born to be in the center ring.
Speaker 3 00:16:31 They shoulda got this full disco collar. That's what they wanted to do. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:16:36 With the collar.
Speaker 3 00:16:37 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:16:38 Whoa. Nice shot. Whoever that was, this was me. It was Zach. The Zade. Okay dude. So what have you got next on your notes? I got Tim Drake on the mean streets of Gotham being an ambiguous race, delivering Chinese food for his black dad. And
Speaker 3 00:16:55 Is Asian mom, Hispanic mom, Asian.
Speaker 2 00:16:58 I hated this.
Speaker 3 00:16:59 She's Asian. Yes. He's Asian speaks Cantonese. This is what you need to watch with subtitles.
Speaker 2 00:17:04 No, don't stop talking about all this. Sometimes man's argument every
Speaker 1 00:17:06 Week. Just watch what? Sometimes just look at them. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:17:11 I was gonna be taking notes for your guys' benefit.
Speaker 3 00:17:13 Is this honey trap gonna disappear?
Speaker 2 00:17:16 No, no. So anyway, this is my least favorite part cuz it made me really hungry. He was like, so don't playings. And then they're like how so noodles. I was like the
Speaker 1 00:17:26 Dinner. Watch that again. <laugh> man. It's a threeway tie.
Speaker 2 00:17:31 I liked how he was like, I'm a Batman fan.
Speaker 3 00:17:34 It's like I'm really a Batman Batman. The
Speaker 2 00:17:40 Did
Speaker 3 00:17:40 You guys did? He was Tim Drake before or after the recruitment scene?
Speaker 2 00:17:45 Uh, I I'm tempted to lie, but I'll be honest and be, and say, I didn't really think about it. Realize he was Tim Drake.
Speaker 3 00:17:52 It did not occur to me that he was gonna be Tim Drake until the whole Carrie Kelly. Uh, uh, who, who was the other one? Who recognized Nixon hill?
Speaker 2 00:18:01 No Dixon shell was his name. Oh
Speaker 3 00:18:03 Yeah. Nixon
Speaker 2 00:18:04 Hill from generation.
Speaker 3 00:18:06 Oh Stephanie Brown was the one.
Speaker 2 00:18:08 Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1 00:18:11 Yeah. Um,
Speaker 2 00:18:12 This whole is really screwing me.
Speaker 3 00:18:14 Yeah. I don't like this.
Speaker 2 00:18:17 It's so bad. Ah, got back. No <laugh> um, yeah. Yeah. I liked how they really quick. Sorry. I like they did a good job setting the atmosphere for Gotham city. You really got the feeling that it was like a real sh real shit hole. I
Speaker 1 00:18:35 Think that's on you backwards.
Speaker 3 00:18:37 Yeah, I know. Thanks. I,
Speaker 1 00:18:38 I, I liked it, but I didn't like it because then they set up the Asian to be this fucking jackass. <laugh> what?
Speaker 2 00:18:46 The Asian brother?
Speaker 1 00:18:47 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:18:48 Whoa. The cousin
Speaker 1 00:18:49 Is cousin. Yeah. Yeah. Cousin.
Speaker 2 00:18:51 You need some new kicks for school, man. Bro.
Speaker 3 00:18:53 Hey put drug dealing cousin. Who's gonna present a moral quandary. Get ready?
Speaker 1 00:18:58 Yeah. I didn't say he dealt drugs. He just,
Speaker 3 00:19:00 What did he deal? How he get the money?
Speaker 1 00:19:03 Maybe he maybe he's it specialist.
Speaker 3 00:19:06 Maybe he's a doctor.
Speaker 1 00:19:07 <laugh> <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:19:09 That's right. Used car sales, man. Maybe, maybe he's a hedge fund manager.
Speaker 1 00:19:13 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:19:15 All right.
Speaker 1 00:19:16 I just said let's move on. So, okay.
Speaker 2 00:19:18 So they, so Robin's found dad, which I was like half surprised cuz obviously we all know what happened to, to Jason, Ty, but I also was like, again, just thinking from a Hollywood perspective, I'm surprised they would bring the actor back for that one scene and then kill him off.
Speaker 1 00:19:34 Well,
Speaker 2 00:19:35 I guess he'll back as the red hood.
Speaker 1 00:19:37 I don't, I feel like they couldn't take away both Raven and Jason at the same time, there would be a need to
Speaker 2 00:19:46 Fans would riot. What about Donna?
Speaker 1 00:19:48 Oh, riot, but just spread it out. Well, Donna already died. I mean, that's a different than just writing them out of a storyline plus considering they had to close up the storyline of the fact that way, um, takes Senti way to Batman. So you kind of need to see or you kind of wanna see what happened with that whole situation. That's right. Zach, enjoy that incor. Yeah. Oh damn
Speaker 2 00:20:17 It. Bogie. I was stuck in the ribs man who
Speaker 1 00:20:20 Keeps turning me into things.
Speaker 2 00:20:25 So guys, do you guys like when Dick sees Robin found dead on the TV and he like doesn't even react
Speaker 3 00:20:31 Was amazing. Totally unaffected, man. He's just like, you want some lunch kid
Speaker 2 00:20:38 Actually like Batman, not reacting,
Speaker 1 00:20:41 Reacting,
Speaker 2 00:20:42 Uhhuh. They had enough of a reaction for you, Jay.
Speaker 1 00:20:45 No. So I like the fact that Batman doesn't react cause it's Batman mm-hmm <affirmative> we already know that he's fucking mental in that capacity. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and detached. But I like that Dick doesn't well, so I, I like, and don't like the fact that jump
Speaker 2 00:21:06 Out, it
Speaker 1 00:21:07 Didn't really respond. It felt like, cause since it was my second time watching it, I had the same thought the first time I watched it. But the second time I watched it, it felt like he had just a hint of iation and like animosity with it. Uh, so like, um, the fact that it was like, well obvi well fucking Bruce, like it, it just felt like it felt though. Yeah. I'll just say that like it was it, wasn't no response, but like if you look at, if you really watch it again and you'd see his face, it's the, there's a subtle hint of shock, but more just wa what the fuck face? Well, we
Speaker 2 00:22:01 Don't want subtlety.
Speaker 1 00:22:03 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:22:04 Superhero show.
Speaker 1 00:22:05 Yeah. It's a, its just a interesting view of like that. I didn't catch the first time I watched it.
Speaker 4 00:22:10 All right. I like, yeah. He's like completely like emotionally stunted. It's like, yeah. It's like the fast forward, like two scenes later or whatever. It's like at one point like Rob, like, uh, night wing is like pissed at him and yelling at me. He's like, and he is like, oh, so do you wanna be a Robin? And like possible like the worst being possible to
Speaker 2 00:22:26 That's hilarious. A good question. It's freaking hilarious. I, I actually like the depiction of Batman on this show. I feel like either, I think they're doing a good job. A job of walking the line where Batman's like kind of crazy, but not full on Villa. Yeah. Like I feel like a lot of shows, a lot of depictions Batman, they'll be like, okay, you know, he's crazy. He's a guy who dress up as a bat. So they make him just like Ave, like a straight up villain. He's gonna create a brother eye satellite. Yeah, exactly. He's gonna kill the whole justice league, but this is a good kind of balance between um, you know,
Speaker 1 00:23:02 I agree with that. I, I like the fact that they make em seem slightly deranged detached, but also kinda, and very needy
Speaker 2 00:23:13 <laugh> he's like I can't do it a low tick <laugh> cause he's like old, he's getting old. I like that depiction too where he like his password is down. So
Speaker 1 00:23:22 Hackable Dick is the
Speaker 2 00:23:25 Maybe
Speaker 1 00:23:25 That's for whole different reason.
Speaker 2 00:23:26 Yeah. About Chiba. Wow. Uh, so I, I have an observation about the part where Dick returns to Wayne Manor. And I did like, I did like that seat was they're doing a good job with pacing and not making things go too fast. I, I, my main takeaway is that Jason has a first floor bedroom, which must suck when you live in a mansion and you have a first floor
Speaker 3 00:23:49 Bedrooms.
Speaker 1 00:23:50 I 100% rather have a first floor bedroom.
Speaker 3 00:23:54 Why, why problem?
Speaker 1 00:23:56 Why? Because then I don't have
Speaker 2 00:23:58 Right off the kitchen.
Speaker 1 00:23:59 I don't have to climb like 50 fucking stairs to get to my bedroom and go walk like 60 or 6,000 steps just to get to my bedroom.
Speaker 2 00:24:10 Who would say it's it's 10,000 stairs. I'm sure they have a perfectly normal staircase. Not very private
Speaker 1 00:24:18 Concerning. It's a mansion. You get enough privacy. I mean, am I my Nope. In my, my bedroom apartment, I get plenty of privacy. Don't wanna to do all my steps. Just my bedroom,
Speaker 2 00:24:31 Jason. We know Jason's looking at porno mag, so,
Speaker 3 00:24:35 Oh yeah. Well know he didn't take down Dick's decorations stuff everywhere. Also like a mansion. He couldn't have given him a different bedroom
Speaker 2 00:24:46 <laugh> so he learns
Speaker 1 00:24:48 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:24:48 He knows his it's like a servants bedroom,
Speaker 1 00:24:51 But again, it's Bruce just replacing a Robin for a Robin. So why would he?
Speaker 3 00:24:57 But yeah. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1 00:24:58 And, and I like the
Speaker 3 00:25:00 Fact thatt that to make it so obvious,
Speaker 1 00:25:01 But I like, I don't that Jason Todd recognizes that.
Speaker 2 00:25:06 Oh, he also feels like a replacement.
Speaker 1 00:25:08 Yeah. He recognizes that.
Speaker 3 00:25:10 Bruce's that's why he's so angry. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:25:12 Constantly preparing himself to he's constantly comparing himself. Cause he recognizes that uh, yeah. Dick is the, the go to like model that he has to live up to. Yeah. That he can't really ever exceed and hell he's not even worth getting another bedroom because Hey, who knows? Cuz maybe Dick will come back. <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:25:40 Be more actually if like Batman left, Dick's better alone. Yeah. And Casey came back like, you know, parents,
Speaker 2 00:25:46 Like every parent does when you leave for college. Right?
Speaker 1 00:25:49 Yeah. The other thing I liked about this was the, uh, notion that there's secret compartments that aren't really secret and Batman should be, should have been able to be like, oh yeah, there's this compartment with the annuity, with money, with all this other stuff. And he should have just gone through that stuff on his
Speaker 2 00:26:08 Own. I it's got better stuff to do than like parents.
Speaker 1 00:26:11 <laugh> true. But I, but I also digging me ideas if I ever buy a house to make molding <laugh> so that could I use
Speaker 2 00:26:20 Uh, alright, so we're moving on to Barbara Gordon. Oh, hold on. Hold on. I one more
Speaker 1 00:26:23 Observation. It is her namesake
Speaker 2 00:26:25 <laugh> hold on, hold, hold. I have one more observation, which is that. So Dick goes to the bad cave. And when you got, when he walks into the bad caves, does anybody notice what's right there on the wall?
Speaker 3 00:26:36 Bunch of bets?
Speaker 2 00:26:37 What'd you go? No, it's a goddamn gun rack. There's a gun rack. I was wondering that too. Is he like confiscate him
Speaker 1 00:26:43 I guess. And
Speaker 2 00:26:43 Then, oh geez guys. I have no idea, but it's it's a little bit absurd. No, he has guns in the, in the back of it. So he knows like their capabilities. Yeah. They that's in complex. Yeah, really? Yeah. Uhhuh. So they range their ammunition.
Speaker 1 00:26:57 Yeah. They come, they they're all fully trained on weapons.
Speaker 2 00:27:00 Yeah. What they sound like. That makes sense. Interesting. Okay, cool. I never knew that. I don't
Speaker 3 00:27:07 Like the part of a Batman fan.
Speaker 2 00:27:09 <laugh> I, there you go. See, I learned something new today. I, I also like the part where they talk about how he, Bruce was just like, I buried him next to Alfred. Cause I was kind of wondering where Alfred was. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:27:19 Where was Alfred?
Speaker 2 00:27:20 I'm sure they, maybe they took covered that earlier in the show, but it's been like four years since we watched it. So
Speaker 1 00:27:24 <laugh> yeah. I think in halfway or at the end of season one, they talk about how, why Dick is doing his thing and because like he, he can't Bruce is, you know, he'll traumatize.
Speaker 2 00:27:38 Yeah. No that's good. Um, okay. And then yeah. So bad man completely is completely unaffected by death. Oh, I also have one more part, which is that Corey roasts. Jason she's like, she's like, Jason's dead. He never learned, he never learned anything. He died cuz he was stupid. So that I realized that with this reminded me of, which was the first issue of JSA when they all come together cuz Wesley DODs dies
Speaker 1 00:28:04 And that rose down. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:28:06 I guess
Speaker 1 00:28:07 The other thing I liked about her roasting is the fact that it's basically the exact same argument of, or description of what a psychopath is or someone who doesn't learn from their mistakes. It's going it's because you're what is it like if people who don't learn yeah. Insane.
Speaker 2 00:28:29 Yeah. Like insane person does the same thing over and over. I expect different results.
Speaker 1 00:28:32 Exactly. Mm-hmm <affirmative> it's the exact same argument. So I was like, oh yeah. So she's 100%. So just say, oh no, this asshole is just insane. <laugh> without actually saying
Speaker 2 00:28:42 The membrane. Yeah. That's definitely a roast though. No way.
Speaker 1 00:28:47 It's a roast. I just like the fact that she does it.
Speaker 2 00:28:52 Yeah. Definitely
Speaker 1 00:28:55 Way. Yeah. That was fine. Specifically the way she
Speaker 2 00:28:56 Does it to say about it.
Speaker 1 00:28:57 And everyone else is like, uh, what
Speaker 2 00:28:59 <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:29:00 She's like yeah, fuck you guys <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:29:02 But it is nice that we see the Titans reacting to it. I feel like if this were a different show, they would've just like been like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 00:29:09 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:29:09 We forgot to write a scene. Woo.
Speaker 3 00:29:13 Um, guys, how many times do you think Batman's had to take rabies shots
Speaker 2 00:29:18 For the bat? From the bats?
Speaker 3 00:29:20 Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:29:21 Probably, probably a few times. So now we're
Speaker 1 00:29:25 Like repellent.
Speaker 2 00:29:27 Now we have the part with, uh, commissioner and I'm little bit confused because they're finding icy cold corpses all over Gotham. No they're
Speaker 1 00:29:36 Not. No they're yeah. They're no they're heads.
Speaker 2 00:29:41 I thought
Speaker 1 00:29:41 They were frozen heads. No,
Speaker 2 00:29:42 She talks about how
Speaker 1 00:29:44 She talked about Mr.
Speaker 2 00:29:45 Freeze freeze. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:29:46 But she doesn't but they, these heads are all like
Speaker 3 00:29:50 If they were frozen Matt, then it wouldn't be a mystery who the serial killer is. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:29:53 No kidding.
Speaker 1 00:29:54 The, the detective specifically says that they're survey wrapped.
Speaker 2 00:29:58 Yeah. Okay. I wasn't listening obviously.
Speaker 3 00:30:02 Okay.
Speaker 2 00:30:03 <laugh> anyway, so yeah. Zach, what do you wanna say about Barbara as the commissioner? I, I was surprised she didn't have red hair.
Speaker 3 00:30:10 I liked it. I was into it. She did have red hair. It was just dark. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:30:14 Dark, dark red hair. I cold this show.
Speaker 3 00:30:18 I meant like the show was dark. So you couldn't see it.
Speaker 2 00:30:21 Yeah. That's too.
Speaker 3 00:30:23 <laugh> <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:30:24 Um, but yeah, the, the whole thing with her commissioner that remind to me of Gotham central when she was like some psycho, just like a refrigerator. Yeah. I can see that again. I think they're doing up
Speaker 3 00:30:38 Weird comic job, obscure comic
Speaker 2 00:30:39 Creative atmosphere. There's not obscure. It's
Speaker 3 00:30:41 Great. Yes. Its <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:30:44 It's obscure to me.
Speaker 2 00:30:46 It's OB it's it's obscure to me. Well, you should read a lot. I have all, I have
Speaker 3 00:30:49 All that, that have part in the obsidian age and you guys are gonna be like, what?
Speaker 2 00:30:53 <laugh> I remember that.
Speaker 3 00:30:56 Yeah. It's cuz it's great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:30:57 I, I like how they, you know, she ties about how I ever since I hung up the costume.
Speaker 1 00:31:03 Yeah. It's nice that see that they recognize that portion.
Speaker 3 00:31:07 Yeah. I liked her character a lot. She, I wrote she's spitting facts.
Speaker 1 00:31:12 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:31:12 In my notes.
Speaker 2 00:31:14 It was funny when he's like, I need your help, Bruce. Isn't processing this. Can you help me? Like, you know, talk him down for all time's sake. And then he brings him in and she's just like, you're the worst, Bruce. You
Speaker 1 00:31:25 You're psycho. You got
Speaker 2 00:31:26 Jason killed. It's all your fault are
Speaker 3 00:31:28 Pretty Dick. Like a
Speaker 2 00:31:31 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:31:31 And you're like, yeah he is. And
Speaker 2 00:31:33 I also like how Dick was, Dick was like, what was that? You know? Like the writing has gotten better. They're actually acting the way like human beings would.
Speaker 3 00:31:42 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:31:43 So it's nice to say
Speaker 3 00:31:44 That's true.
Speaker 1 00:31:45 How do you piece of crap?
Speaker 2 00:31:48 I'm doing really badly too. Oh geez. I'm outta time. Excuse me, disaster. So people don't keep turning me into things. So not very
Speaker 1 00:31:58 I a cube. Thank you. Whoever changed me into cube.
Speaker 2 00:32:01 I like that. They took the time also to do the, like the funny stories about
Speaker 1 00:32:05 Olden hair. Piece of shit.
Speaker 2 00:32:07 Yes. That's what they call me. That reminds me. Yeah, dude. The, the funny stories. Remind me of all the funerals we go to where it's funny stories about the deceased. Oh my God, dude. You make it sound like we go to like a lot of funerals, not a lot. The one we've we've so many funerals. I've seen so much death
Speaker 1 00:32:24 From first
Speaker 3 00:32:24 And fourth. I hate you.
Speaker 2 00:32:32 What? A few pieces pieces. Shit. That's what I do, baby. I dude just you're gonna lose anyway. <laugh> Dick finds. Jason's sketchy safe house, uh, where he's making drugs. So again, it's kind like what's going on there. Let's let's see what's going down. It's a lingering plot thread. Yeah. Uh, I wanna
Speaker 1 00:32:54 Know the timeframe between when, when Jason started doing the drugs to when his death was and how Batman didn't just go. Are you tweaking? At some point?
Speaker 2 00:33:05 My ward speedy is dealing drugs. Oh, taking drugs. Shall we spool up another chorus? Ladies?
Speaker 1 00:33:18 I am start
Speaker 2 00:33:19 He's on it. Take your time. All right. So yeah. And then we get the part with the new Robin file as discussed earlier, which was great. Yep. Uh, again, you're doing a good job of making this Badman seem like really kind of unhand.
Speaker 1 00:33:33 Did we do candle? We didn't do candle land,
Speaker 2 00:33:35 Right? No, I think we did, but it's fine.
Speaker 3 00:33:36 We
Speaker 1 00:33:37 Quit. Quit do retire. I'm retiring.
Speaker 2 00:33:40 I don't remember this. You guys play without me?
Speaker 1 00:33:42 I do. I
Speaker 2 00:33:43 Retired. Yeah, we did. Of course you played without you. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:33:46 <laugh> join on me again. Uh,
Speaker 2 00:33:49 And then, and then what we talked, like we talked about earlier, Bruce's showing sides of aging. He's like, I can't do it. This's the part where you're like, he can't, I can't do it alone. So I like that. He's showing vulnerability. Mm-hmm <affirmative> uh, then we get star fires. Vision.
Speaker 3 00:34:04 Yeah. I'm not into another star fire plot.
Speaker 2 00:34:07 No, she's like the worst. She's the, maybe the second word. Would you rather have her Rachel?
Speaker 3 00:34:11 Uh, definitely
Speaker 2 00:34:12 Her. Definitely her <laugh>. Okay. I guess that still, I mean, we're gonna get probably black fire and the tamarins. I
Speaker 3 00:34:20 Thought we already did
Speaker 2 00:34:20 That. No. Yeah, we did. It was strong. We did
Speaker 1 00:34:23 Back a little bit of it. We got,
Speaker 3 00:34:24 I, that was like a whole season arc.
Speaker 1 00:34:27 We got a little bit of it.
Speaker 2 00:34:29 Okay. It was not a whole season arc was or there was just tea. Her, they were teasing her. It was teasing. The Tamran came and they were like, we're taking you back.
Speaker 3 00:34:37 Yeah. There was like a ship that they went on.
Speaker 1 00:34:39 That's when we found out about the boyfriend, that's sexy, uh,
Speaker 3 00:34:42 Boyfriend, sexy boyfriend.
Speaker 2 00:34:44 Oh, I guess they're doing it again to repair with all the damage you've done. She's like, I don't wanna go back. Remember she traps the guy in the ship and sends it back. Okay. Yes. Okay. Fine. Then we're getting more of that. <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:34:54 Great. No,
Speaker 2 00:34:58 What it's happening? Well, then we have our last where Bruce Wayne comes in and he says I killed the joker and he drops the crowbar at Dick's feet. And then he is like, I am done
Speaker 3 00:35:07 He's yeah. Yeah. He's like Jake, you ought be, you gotta be Batman. You're like nicer and gentler than me. And you're observant. So be Batman.
Speaker 2 00:35:14 It's more like, he's like, I'm old and I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 3 00:35:18 Well, I was like, there's no way Dick's gonna be Batman. Do you see how much money they just spent on that suit?
Speaker 2 00:35:23 Oh man. It'd be cool though. If he was Batman, I would, I would watch it. This show is not that good,
Speaker 1 00:35:29 But also
Speaker 2 00:35:31 That man in the Titans,
Speaker 1 00:35:33 He just basically tried to murder joker.
Speaker 2 00:35:36 So no, he did murder. He
Speaker 3 00:35:37 Did murder. It's implied. He went to Arkon beat the shit out him.
Speaker 1 00:35:41 Well, he beat the shit outta
Speaker 3 00:35:43 Him. It's about
Speaker 1 00:35:44 Say killed him.
Speaker 2 00:35:46 So you didn't have to hire an actor to play joker. That's great.
Speaker 3 00:35:50 They thought they were gonna hire the kid from Gotham, from shameless.
Speaker 2 00:35:55 Get Barry Keegan. He's all the rage.
Speaker 3 00:35:58 The guy, guy froms
Speaker 2 00:36:00 Man.
Speaker 1 00:36:01 Oh,
Speaker 2 00:36:02 Oh dog bat, man. Bat. Man's joker. Batman, bud joker. Yeah. All right. Oh, Godammit this also made me think that this took place in the same world as so. Oh. This made me think has took place in the same world as the, uh, walking Phoenix joker. Cuz it has grimy Gotham in it. Maybe you're
Speaker 1 00:36:20 A grimy goth.
Speaker 3 00:36:21 Gotham's always grimy.
Speaker 2 00:36:23 No, it's not. If you watch the Christian bail Gothams they don't have nearly as good of a sense of place in my
Speaker 3 00:36:27 Opinion. Uh, yeah. It has a place. It's Chicago.
Speaker 2 00:36:32 Chicago go 1960.
Speaker 3 00:36:35 Oh no, not another one of these. No.
Speaker 2 00:36:39 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:36:40 My one weakness
Speaker 1 00:36:43 A lot. There's a secret.
Speaker 2 00:36:44 Yeah. There's a secret.
Speaker 3 00:36:46 I got it. A secret. You can go underneath.
Speaker 2 00:36:48 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:36:49 Oh, I didn't use
Speaker 1 00:36:50 This. Oh, I just did it the hard way
Speaker 2 00:36:53 You did it on hard mode. Okay. So what do we think of the first episode? I thought it was all right.
Speaker 3 00:36:59 That's okay.
Speaker 2 00:37:00 Like the twist with Jason, I, the whole episode was backup.
Speaker 3 00:37:05 It was kinda lazy. It's like, Hmm, what are we gonna do for season three? I don't know. Let's kill Jason.
Speaker 1 00:37:09 Okay.
Speaker 2 00:37:10 Thought I won the last game. Cause this one's not doing so bad.
Speaker 1 00:37:13 I thought it was fine. Um,
Speaker 3 00:37:15 Like
Speaker 1 00:37:15 Your head, I'm gonna try to keep my mouth shut since I'm like I've watched so, so <laugh> I actually think it gets better.
Speaker 3 00:37:23 Oh, you know what the real best part was though. When they're shooting bolts at crypto, they're just like bouncing off. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:37:29 Episode.
Speaker 2 00:37:30 I'm glad to hear. That gets better. Cause I, I enjoy this episode. I'm interested to see where it's gonna go.
Speaker 1 00:37:36 Uh,
Speaker 2 00:37:37 I never thought,
Speaker 1 00:37:39 Yeah. Who've thought I would say that about, I also was like, uh, with VE like she's like fine. Like
Speaker 2 00:37:50 Don't say anything negative about dog. You know? I love them.
Speaker 1 00:37:53 Yeah. It's one. He looks good in those bike shorts in DC bike shorts. Hell yeah. <laugh> but like he gets there and she's like, what the fuck? You know what this? And you're like, wait, what? This isn't it's such quick turn. Is
Speaker 2 00:38:08 That happening?
Speaker 3 00:38:09 Talking about Hawkin dove weren't in this episode.
Speaker 2 00:38:14 Yeah. That's coming up. Jay, screw you.
Speaker 1 00:38:16 Whoever keeps doing
Speaker 2 00:38:16 This.
Speaker 1 00:38:17 No.
Speaker 3 00:38:18 Yeah. Really? Jay.
Speaker 2 00:38:19 Yeah. Jay. We talked
Speaker 1 00:38:23 About
Speaker 3 00:38:25 Who's that
Speaker 2 00:38:26 Hawk dove in that part.
Speaker 1 00:38:27 Oh no. Wait, hold on. Am I thinking of an old episode?
Speaker 2 00:38:31 Possibly.
Speaker 1 00:38:32 I think I'm talking about, oh, I'm thinking about last, but the season at the end when they break up and she's like, fuck you. And then he's like,
Speaker 2 00:38:39 Yeah. And he has, and she has the box full of his stuff.
Speaker 1 00:38:41 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:38:43 Mad questions of the day. All right, here we go. I put real thought in the questions of the day. So I hope you put some real thought into your answers. Sorry. Was everyone finished with Titans? Sorry. I realize it
Speaker 1 00:38:54 Always done with Titans. <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:38:58 I hate this. Let
Speaker 2 00:39:00 Go. Is your frustration at the game or at Titans? That's
Speaker 3 00:39:03 Just the game.
Speaker 4 00:39:05 Oh, I did find one fun fact about Titans. That was like actress that plays Barbara Gordon. Like apparently like she was at a farmer's market with her father and her four year old son and like a vehicle hit her and then they had to amputate her leg from that.
Speaker 3 00:39:18 Oh that she really didn't have a
Speaker 4 00:39:19 Leg. Yeah. She really didn't have a leg.
Speaker 3 00:39:23 I know if she was actually her leg. Yeah. She's real
Speaker 2 00:39:29 Thought might do that part. I thought they might do that for the show. Cause she didn't seem like that. Could've an actress. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4 00:39:36 The,
Speaker 3 00:39:36 That was, was cold blooded.
Speaker 2 00:39:38 What is the deal with this whole?
Speaker 4 00:39:39 That's why I kinda looked her up. Cause I was like, she's not that great, but yeah. Yeah. And then I always looked it up too. Yeah. So I kind of agree with you Matt. Yeah, but she has a lot of personality. So
Speaker 1 00:39:50 I think
Speaker 5 00:39:51 How are we supposed to,
Speaker 2 00:39:52 I mean, she was actually let me rephrase that. She was, she was fine. She wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 00:39:56 She was fine. Uh, do not go straight. This one
Speaker 4 00:40:01 Go
Speaker 2 00:40:01 First. Someone. Oh, I'm on the exterior. I can go first. Oh, God's turn GOJ
Speaker 5 00:40:08 Fault. Go ahead. ZJ no, at fault
Speaker 2 00:40:09 Six strokes. Okay, Matt, what's the, uh, questions of the day. All right. Oh yeah. Question of the day. Number one click on is to your head. You are forced to sit down and watch three movies in a row. The choices are the dis the star wars prequels or the star wars sequels
Speaker 4 00:40:28 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:40:29 Um,
Speaker 3 00:40:30 Sequels.
Speaker 2 00:40:31 Yeah, sequels. So
Speaker 4 00:40:32 Sequels. I like
Speaker 5 00:40:33 Sequels. I watch sequels it's I haven't rewatched most of them. So it would be interesting experience.
Speaker 2 00:40:40 Wow. I thought it would be a harder question than that.
Speaker 1 00:40:43 I rewatched the sequel.
Speaker 5 00:40:47 I watched the prequels at one point recently, Matt and I was, I literally had to stop watching a couple of them because they were so bad.
Speaker 4 00:40:55 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:40:56 Okay. Here's the question which did more damage to your childhood, the prequels of the sequels, the sequels, well
Speaker 1 00:41:01 To your
Speaker 3 00:41:02 Child, to your child
Speaker 5 00:41:04 Prequels for me, uh, I think that it was kind of like an eye-opening. Oh, wait, George Lucas doesn't actually care about the extended universe. Cuz I was like, oh, there should be dread knots. And I know how Vader lost his hand and like all this stuff, you know, from the extended universe. And then none of that happened and I was like, okay, I guess it wasn't real.
Speaker 2 00:41:24 It's like, it was real to me every all every time. It's all. It's all real me.
Speaker 5 00:41:30 Yeah. So it, that, that was really formative for me. I'd say like before that I was like, oh man, I know these things, like I know who lacks CIAC is and what his story is. And it felt, you know, not real sounds stupid, but it, it felt like that was the, the true version of things. You know, whoever turned me into a square fucked,
Speaker 2 00:41:52 I think, uh, I never know. I think for me the, uh, it was the sequels because the prequels ruined Darth Vader and to a lesser extent, R two D two and C three PO. But the sequels ruined Han Luke and Lea. Oh wow. How'd they ruin Han for you. They turned him back into his old like loser self. Oh
Speaker 3 00:42:15 He SMU. He was still hanging out with Chewbacca.
Speaker 2 00:42:19 No character growth. Yeah, exactly. Don't forget. He's a deadbeat dad. Yeah. He's a dead dad. He's you know, he's not, he's
Speaker 1 00:42:26 A dead dad. He sacrificed everything
Speaker 3 00:42:31 About Jay.
Speaker 2 00:42:31 He sacrificed himself for people. He had just met.
Speaker 3 00:42:34 Jay, was this in a book?
Speaker 2 00:42:35 No, it's in the movie. Can't I hate this hole
Speaker 3 00:42:39 In the hole.
Speaker 1 00:42:42 This is what you foraging
Speaker 2 00:42:46 Disparaged himself.
Speaker 5 00:42:48 Do you think? I do think that the sequels had a certain, oh, let's go back to what happened in the first one and replay some of the same beats, which didn't benefit
Speaker 3 00:42:58 Them in my opinion. Yeah, of course they did. JJ. Doesn't know how to write new stuff. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:43:01 Stop. If we talk about the sequels here all day,
Speaker 5 00:43:05 We'll stab each other.
Speaker 2 00:43:08 Ooh. What
Speaker 3 00:43:08 A shot. Does anyone else think? JJ Abram sucks. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:43:12 Like I, you wrote the four
Speaker 5 00:43:13 UN popular opinion.
Speaker 2 00:43:15 So I'm reading Anthony Daniels' new book. No, I don't know how. I don't know how new it is, but his book about being C three P. Yeah. And
Speaker 3 00:43:23 You get him the library?
Speaker 2 00:43:25 No, I borrow it from my friend, Tom. Shout it to my friend, Tom.
Speaker 3 00:43:28 Okay. Give, buy it.
Speaker 2 00:43:31 Hmm. As long as I didn't buy it, I was your problem. Wow.
Speaker 3 00:43:33 But he's a Dick. Okay. Whatever.
Speaker 2 00:43:35 How'd you guys get the whole, oh, you're wrong.
Speaker 3 00:43:38 No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 00:43:38 That's what she has. No, he's famous for being a Dick.
Speaker 3 00:43:41 Yeah. Thank you. Rob
Speaker 2 00:43:42 Knows. He's a Dick. So that, that makes it. But doesn't make,
Speaker 3 00:43:45 But you know, you're a Dick doesn't mean it's okay to be a Dick.
Speaker 2 00:43:47 He's a Dick ironically. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:43:50 Is it ironic
Speaker 2 00:43:51 When you're a Dick and you embrace it? No, it's okay. Doesn't here. He's like, no, that guy's a Dick. I love,
Speaker 1 00:43:57 I embrace the fact that I'm a Dick, but I'm not that kind of a
Speaker 2 00:44:00 Dick. Jay. You're not a Dick. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:44:02 You're not a Dick. Anthony Daniels is a Dick. OK.
Speaker 2 00:44:05 So, so one of the J Abrams in the forward says, I, you know, at the, at first star war seems like it's great because of the setting and a special and the revolutionary special effects and all this stuff. But when you, when it really comes down to, when you really notice that it's about the characters and the humanity, their struggles, their hopes, their dreams, their fierce. And I was like, that's true, JJ. So why didn't you put any of that into the sequels? You fucking hack.
Speaker 1 00:44:31 Cool. Go light and then go, just to center yourself,
Speaker 2 00:44:35 Dude. I would disagree in the last movie. Finn goes through a struggle of trying to tell Ray something and he never does. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I know I said we weren't gonna talk about the sequels I'm done now. I do think that I agree with you guys that the sequels are more watchable than the
Speaker 1 00:44:50 Prequels. I think I, I love the sequels or multiple, but I am okay with rewatching. This prequels.
Speaker 2 00:45:00 Dang it. That was an amazing shot. And that I fucked it up.
Speaker 4 00:45:04 Yeah. I, I defend RISE's Skywalker. So I'm history's greatest monster basically. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:45:09 Yeah. It's like you it's like Hitler than you and then stop you're
Speaker 5 00:45:12 In.
Speaker 4 00:45:13 That's about right? Yeah. Anita come to Jesus moment.
Speaker 2 00:45:17 I mean it does dang it, it does have wedge so true
Speaker 5 00:45:23 Sitting in the next he's millennium. FAL.
Speaker 2 00:45:27 That's right. All technic.
Speaker 3 00:45:30 Wait, when did I wanna come over here? Second
Speaker 2 00:45:32 Professor,
Speaker 5 00:45:33 Hold on. I dunno. I'm asking myself
Speaker 2 00:45:35 Question. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. When is it inappropriate to pull out your device and start scrolling?
Speaker 5 00:45:43 Hang on guys. Where are we trying to get to?
Speaker 1 00:45:45 Cause I
Speaker 2 00:45:46 Thought like use weekend. ZJ hit's see,
Speaker 1 00:45:49 Uh, inappropriate at, um, during the vows of a
Speaker 2 00:45:54 Weddings asking, when is it appropriate to, when is it inappropriate? When is it to do
Speaker 5 00:45:58 What?
Speaker 2 00:45:58 To pull out your device and start scrolling on, start
Speaker 3 00:46:00 Ignoring the people around you and look at your phone.
Speaker 5 00:46:03 Yeah. Um, I mean, there are tons of answers.
Speaker 2 00:46:08 I feel like in this day and age, it's pretty much like, there is no bad time. No. Say when you're spending time with some, another person <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:46:17 Whip it out. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:46:19 No,
Speaker 3 00:46:20 You're sorry. Like my dog isn't sick.
Speaker 2 00:46:24 Well, no, I'm not saying I'm not saying responding to like a text message or saying, I'm saying pulling out the social medias. I start scrolling.
Speaker 3 00:46:31 Yeah. Oh yeah. No, don't do that.
Speaker 2 00:46:33 Okay.
Speaker 3 00:46:34 Yeah. But also like, you know, sometimes you get bored.
Speaker 2 00:46:37 Okay. So when, when would it be inappropriate? Yeah. Damn it can't
Speaker 4 00:46:43 Say it's inappropriate on a first date, but then like by the third date. Yeah. Anything goes, fuck it. <laugh> it's probably why I'm single, but whatever.
Speaker 1 00:46:51 No, I, I think that's the general rule at the
Speaker 2 00:46:54 No where you cannot story on a date on a third date, date,
Speaker 1 00:46:58 A third date. If I'm pulling out my phone, it's a third date. I know it's either gonna be amazing. And I'm looking up something for that day or I'm bored. And I know the third day is where I'm going to cut it loose.
Speaker 4 00:47:11 Not, or we're just really comfortable with each other. Again, I'm not,
Speaker 2 00:47:14 I'm not saying again again, I'm not saying the premise of the question. No, again, I'm not saying you can't look up something on your phone. It's more like, no,
Speaker 1 00:47:21 No, I that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like that's why I think I agree with Rob of on the third date. It's probably because I'm comfortable enough that I could look up something and be like, ha I'll look at this. Or I go, you know what? I'd rather look up this. Well, the other times Uhhuh, uh, yeah, like weddings, funerals, any first dates, anything that requires like, not just requires, but like this is appropriate
Speaker 2 00:47:53 A social event.
Speaker 1 00:47:56 I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even say social event because there's a lot of social events that I think are perfectly fine. Pull out
Speaker 2 00:48:03 Like at a baseball game. It's okay to pull it out. Yeah. I would agree about that.
Speaker 1 00:48:08 But like specific events where like your intent is to be fully engaged with the whoever you're with like the first date, weddings, funerals, uh, work
Speaker 2 00:48:22 Performance Fu um, can cetera.
Speaker 1 00:48:29 Eh, I'm okay with consent. I feel as, as long as you're like posting, if you're like, if it's appropriate to post, you can keep out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:48:37 But the question is start scrolling. The question is spending longer than like five minutes on at the device. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:48:41 But if I'm gonna post, then I'm also gonna scroll. What else is happening?
Speaker 2 00:48:45 Okay. All right. That's good. Anyone, anyone else wanna weigh in Alana? Hmm. CJ is said, anyone else wanna weigh in? Who hasn't? Who hasn't had the chance yet?
Speaker 5 00:48:57 Um, CJ.
Speaker 3 00:48:58 Oh my God. You just missed on
Speaker 5 00:49:00 One. I didn't look like it to me. I remember it differently.
Speaker 2 00:49:06 Circle Zach.
Speaker 5 00:49:07 I think my answer is going to be, I'm trying to think of one that would actually like generate controversy, but I can't. They're just a lot of times when's like
Speaker 1 00:49:16 I hang out with Zach and Matt. No.
Speaker 2 00:49:18 Yeah. If you're in Zach's presence, no guys, I actually have a perfect tie in from that, that I talked to Matt about today. So today at lunch I was watching the reel, just like I always do. And one of the things they were talking about was a man who, during his wife's 21 hour labor brought a portable video game system with him and started playing it.
Speaker 5 00:49:40 Was it a switch? Because that's just a meme.
Speaker 3 00:49:42 Heard that before. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:49:44 Yeah. I mean, it was a news story a while back, but um, the women on the reel did not like this. What do you, what do you guys think
Speaker 3 00:49:52 The labor could get boring? This is,
Speaker 2 00:49:53 This is a little bit unrelated. Well, yeah, they said if you have your phone and you scroll that's okay. But playing video games is crossing a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:50:01 Like why would that be any
Speaker 2 00:50:02 Different? Yeah, I think that's, yeah, that seems comparable
Speaker 3 00:50:05 To me. And anything, at least your wife can participate in this switch. You guys can play Mario cart
Speaker 4 00:50:09 For like 20 hours.
Speaker 2 00:50:10 That's
Speaker 5 00:50:11 I feel like there's a wrong way to do it.
Speaker 2 00:50:14 If it's like call of duty, then that's might be a kind of a problem.
Speaker 4 00:50:18 There is somebody on Reddit that was playing, I think Eldon ring, uh, on like some TV at the hospital.
Speaker 3 00:50:25 Oh. Did you guys see that there was a thing there?
Speaker 2 00:50:28 Yeah. As the only person who's been, I think through labor,
Speaker 3 00:50:34 You think,
Speaker 2 00:50:35 Well, on this call, has anybody else been through labor? NA
Speaker 3 00:50:39 You don't know Jay's life
Speaker 2 00:50:42 Pass. Yeah. I, it does take a long time and I don't have a problem with it. <laugh> but you gotta get, I think you do have to get permission first. It though.
Speaker 1 00:50:54 I
Speaker 2 00:50:54 Agree. Because often times they wanna be by themselves and like left alone. You know,
Speaker 5 00:51:01 If you're just whipping it out, that seems
Speaker 1 00:51:03 Wrong
Speaker 2 00:51:06 In this situation. The that's the guy you in this situation, in the first place,
Speaker 1 00:51:07 When I had to
Speaker 5 00:51:08 Do
Speaker 1 00:51:09 Nice, when I had to go to my mom's chemo, I would bring my PlayStation to, at that time it was PlayStation too.
Speaker 2 00:51:20 You bring like your whole setup. Oh, hell
Speaker 1 00:51:22 Set up all of it. I brought a mini TV, PlayStation two controllers, all. And uh, yeah, because I sat there for a long time. What am I gonna do?
Speaker 2 00:51:36 Yeah, that's fair. I feel like the jumping is not the spirit of the game.
Speaker 1 00:51:40 You're not in the spirit of the game. Hey,
Speaker 5 00:51:42 We all got a three on that one. Nice job,
Speaker 2 00:51:45 Everyone. Um, wait, so, but to go back to this, the, the scrolling for a second, I do you wanna hear something controversial? I have something controversial, which is that you really shouldn't do it if you're watching TV with another person.
Speaker 5 00:51:58 Yeah. I was considering that map, but I, I know that I personally do that while watching TV's me to say,
Speaker 2 00:52:06 So me do me too, but I wouldn't have a problem with it being a rule that you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 00:52:10 Yeah. But I mean it there, so the question is, how am I supposed to do this? Because you're
Speaker 3 00:52:18 Having,
Speaker 2 00:52:18 Cause you're having a shared experience with somebody. And then like, imagine day, you were like Matt, as my best friend, I want you to watch this movie that's near and dear to me. And then I you're show me the movie. And I'm just on my device scrolling and not paying attention. I wouldn't like
Speaker 1 00:52:33 That. That's an indicator that you're not fully, you're not interested in. Then that's the shitty then that's me being on a shitty person, forcing you to watch it. God, I hate this. What
Speaker 2 00:52:43 About me? What about me being a shitty friend and not paying attention to something that you care about
Speaker 1 00:52:47 Or it's I think it's give and take
Speaker 2 00:52:52 Mm-hmm. I think it's rude to do that. I
Speaker 1 00:52:54 Think it could be rude. It definitely can be rude.
Speaker 2 00:52:57 Mm-hmm
Speaker 1 00:52:59 But at the same time, it doesn't have to.
Speaker 2 00:53:02 I think, I think if you're vocal about it and you say like, Hey, I'm really liking this. Or, you know, you're not engaging with it. Well,
Speaker 1 00:53:07 The wrong hole, you wanna go to the right? Thanks.
Speaker 2 00:53:11 Yeah. I Rob, that's a much better way to handle it's that? Pulling your foot, but just saying like, I'm not really enjoying this. Join us.
Speaker 5 00:53:20 Yep. Zach visited me and did that and that was fine.
Speaker 3 00:53:22 Oh my God. You guys I'm gonna get through, this
Speaker 2 00:53:25 Was jump. I
Speaker 3 00:53:27 Can't.
Speaker 1 00:53:28 Oh, you
Speaker 2 00:53:31 Question number three is the time for question number three? I guess. So question number three. Would you, would you rather your natural speaking voice be too a little too quiet or a little too loud? Uh, definitely a little too quiet.
Speaker 5 00:53:51 Definitely. A little too loud.
Speaker 2 00:53:53 Yeah, me too. I agree with CJ guys. My, my speaky voice is a little too loud and it's problematic.
Speaker 1 00:54:00 <laugh> too quiet because I could be conent because then I could make it louder if I'm too loud and I forget about it, then it's annoying.
Speaker 2 00:54:12 Yeah. I feel to have people constantly streaming to hear you or saying what?
Speaker 1 00:54:17 Or it's constantly annoying to go. Ow. My ears.
Speaker 2 00:54:22 What's it's a little too loud. So it's more like, why are you yelling at me? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:54:26 Why are you yelling? I'd rather have someone be more passive than someone feeling like everyone hates me.
Speaker 5 00:54:32 <laugh> I have coworkers who are both. And personally I'm drawn more to the ones who are louder. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 00:54:39 Dang it is. They're having a good time. They're loving life.
Speaker 5 00:54:42 Yeah. Their love and life. Yeah, exactly. I like, I, I feel like, you know, you can be larger than life and louder than life live, laugh, love. But for people who are
Speaker 2 00:54:56 Laugh loud,
Speaker 5 00:54:58 Laugh, I was actually doing this. This is entertaining. This is
Speaker 2 00:55:03 Good. I, I feel like the world does reward loud people, their jobs and whatever, like positions and I dunno. Yeah. All this is for all the todos here. We Zach.
Speaker 1 00:55:19 Oh no fuck. I've never done.
Speaker 2 00:55:22 <laugh> never been what do this never be.
Speaker 1 00:55:24 I'm behind everyone. So I have to wait for everyone to go. I hate you all.
Speaker 3 00:55:28 Um,
Speaker 2 00:55:30 What, yeah. Did you weigh in on the voice?
Speaker 3 00:55:32 Wait, what was the question?
Speaker 2 00:55:33 Would you rather have your speaking voice be a little too loud or a little too quiet?
Speaker 3 00:55:37 Uh, a little too quiet. Little too quiet. Yeah. Cause nobody likes loud talkers.
Speaker 2 00:55:49 Okay. That's true. Nobody likes you. People.
Speaker 5 00:55:53 I like loud talkers.
Speaker 2 00:55:54 Yeah. Me too. Or last president was a loud talker. Yeah. Already rose to the presidency.
Speaker 5 00:56:01 And a lot of people loved him.
Speaker 2 00:56:03 Yeah. A lot of people were saying they love very fine people. All right. Uh, anything else guys? Or are we done?
Speaker 1 00:56:10 You're done.
Speaker 2 00:56:11 I don't have anything else.
Speaker 5 00:56:13 15
Speaker 2 00:56:14 Seconds lost the game. Right. Outta shots. All right, Zach, take us out.
Speaker 1 00:56:21 It's a good look at that. Good shot.
Speaker 2 00:56:23 Thank you. Tuesday night game. Catch us every week at Twitch TV slash MC Slan and group up with us next time. Bye.
